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I have a commercial floorplan in PDF format that I need to convert to a DWG file. Once converted, I want the file to be editable for future adjustments. The main purpose of this conversion is to modify the room dimensions as needed. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proficiency in AutoCAD - Experience in converting PDF files to DWG - Understanding of commercial floorplan layout - Attention to detail in modifying room dimensions - Ability to create an organized and easily editable DWG file
...integrated in new wordpress theme here Default menu and services which is already there will be as it is. You just need to create a main menu named " WEBS PROMOTION" under Services and add the 8 services with the sub backlinks services. In the home page of below " Full Service Digital Marketing Agency " there are now 4 services banner instead of these 4 banner add the new 8 services creative relevant banner and their links to the pages of the services. Remember the 8 services layout will be almost like the previous site. ( 3 steps checkout ) 1. Service selection 2. package selection i mean the quantity 3. Order details input. 4. checkout. Package checkout must be created with ninja forms with paypal integration. I will pay total $20 total...
I am seeking a skilled graphic designer to create a minimalist design for the homepage of my informational website. Create a series of banner designs for our home page with a version to go in our sidebar too. So 2 x 2 designs in total. 1. Visit our Green Directory. This will be linked to 2. Calling All Sustainable Businesses! LET US PROMOTE YOU . This will link to Your innovative ideas and creative execution will play a crucial role in ensuring the successful sharing and communication of my website's content. Your grasp of minimalism as a design philosophy will be key in executing this project successfully.
I'm in need of an experienced draftsman who can create an architectural drawing of a blueprint. The drawing needs to be to scale, fitting within the dimensions of 11x17 inches. Key Responsibilities: - Develop an accurate, scaled drawing of an architectural blueprint - Ensure the drawing is clearly and professionally presented - Coordinate and communicate effectively to ensure requirements are met Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proficiency in architectural drafting - Experience in creating scaled drawings - Familiarity with architectural design software like AutoCAD, SketchUp, or Revit.
I am seeking a skillful Shopify developer with extensive experience in customization to revamp my online store's home page. My requirements include, but are not limited to, the full customisation of three distinct areas: • Banner Images: I've decided not to define how I'd like these customised, so I'm offering you creative freedom - surprise me. • Product Layout: Again, I've not detailed any specifics here, proving an opportunity for you to utilise your design skills and imagination. My aim is to leave a lasting impression on our customers and visitors with your ideal product layout. • Navigation menu: I have the same approach for the navigation menu as the above items – interest me with your creativity. Strong knowledge of Sh...
...integrated in new wordpress theme here Default menu and services which is already there will be as it is. You just need to create a main menu named " WEBS PROMOTION" under Services and add the 8 services with the sub backlinks services. In the home page of below " Full Service Digital Marketing Agency " there are now 4 services banner instead of these 4 banner add the new 8 services creative relevant banner and their links to the pages of the services. Remember the 8 services layout will be almost like the previous site. ( 3 steps checkout ) 1. Service selection 2. package selection i mean the quantity 3. Order details input. 4. checkout. Package checkout must be created with ninja forms with paypal integration. I will pay total $20 total...
Hi Hassan, as discussed, this is for implementing the consent banner on our sites and transmitting the info to GA4
Must be aware of australian standards for design Once you have converted the drawings into Autocad files, can you please prepare the following drawings also. 1. A set out plan with grids to enable the surveyor a convenient situation to do the peg out 2. Show contextual information on floor plans… 3. Show dimensions of site works, driveway and the like 4. Show adequate levels throughout all the drawings to show clarity between the finished level and the existing natural ground levels 5. Prepare New Sections as identified in the attachment- 6. Several construction details at scale of 1:20 & 1:10 as suitable to elaborate and explain the non-standard junctions in this design – for example, The batten screen on the front fa&cce...
I'm seeking expert assistance for creating detailed plans of various garden furniture and outdoor structures. The goal is to have comprehensive plans that include detailed dimensions, materials list and some tips. - Garden Furniture: This will be centered around outdoor chairs, tables and benches. - Outdoor Structures: The focus will be on sheds, firewood sheds, and dog houses. The perfect freelancer for this project should have a strong background in carpentry or architecture, with outstanding attention to detail and the ability to interpret my specific needs into the plans. Experience with outdoor furniture and constructions is a plus. Your role will involve designing the plans from scratch, determining necessary materials and preparing a detailed listing. Please submit...
...location currently and the other toggle will be to show the upcoming content creators that are planing to come to this location soon -next 14days-) This page will have 6 banner placements that the content creator users can bid to win. The rest of the user profiles will be displayed under those banners in smaller size and the fans can swipe left and right when swiping left those content creators profiles wont be show again and when swiping right it will display in a list as a match. 2. Unique landing page for each state where it will display a menu where you can select the city in that state too. This page will have 6 banner placement that the content creator users can bid for them. (This will have a toggle bottom that will change between the content creators that a...
I am seeking an experienced digital designer who can create a captivating set of banners specifically for Google Ads. I'm open to suggestions on the main purpose of these banners, be it to increase my website traffic...digital designer who can create a captivating set of banners specifically for Google Ads. I'm open to suggestions on the main purpose of these banners, be it to increase my website traffic, promote a specific product/service, or generate leads. please see attached screenshot to see the dimensions i need. this is an ad campaign for a client's book: budget is $50 fixed. if interested please send a sample banner. Please note that the accepted candidate will have to make one banner each in EVERY ONE OF THOSE SIZES LISTED in the attached ima...
...expertise in both backend functionality and frontend design to make custom changes to our admin panel and website. The project involves modifying various pages such as Privacy Policy, Terms and Conditions, FAQs, Customer Reviews, and Trust Budget on the footer section. Additionally, we require comprehensive admin functionalities to be implemented, ensuring full control via the admin panel. Specific Requirements: Admin Panel Customization: Customize various pages including Privacy Policy, Terms and Conditions, FAQs, Customer Reviews, and Trust Budget on the footer section. Implement full admin control over functionalities such as Visa Request, Approved Visa, Rejected Visa, Payment Gateway (Razorpay), Analytics, Website Settings, Ads Banner, Slider, and Homepage customizat...
Project Description: We are looking for a talented freelancer to design a premium packaging box for our new sunglasses line. The box should combine luxury with functionality, ensuring both aesthetic appeal and protective qualities. FYI: The design has already been chosen, all I need is for someone to act out the design and put it on the box. Product: Item: Sunglasses Box Dimensions: 180mm x 120mm x 30mm (LxWxH) to snugly fit the sunglasses. Design Specifications: Exterior Design: Material: Durable, matte black cardboard or similar with a smooth finish. Style: Sleek, minimalist reminiscent of high-end tech products. Color: All black. Interior Design: Material: Lined with a soft, velvet-like fabric in black. Features: Designated slot...
I'm looking for a skilled photo editor who can enhance the clarity of a hand in my picture. (Hand of the man in the pic) Key Requirements: - The hand should look very detailed and naturally part of the image. This means ...of the picture. - There is no need for any other edits to the picture, I just need the hand to be unblurred. Ideal Freelancer: - Proven experience in photo editing, particularly in unblurring and enhancing images. - Attention to detail is crucial. The edits made should be subtle yet effective. - Ability to work with a social media profile picture format and maintain appropriate resolution and dimensions. I'm looking for someone who can deliver high-quality work in a timely manner. If you believe you have the necessary skills and experience, I would lo...
Project Description: We are looking for a talented freelancer to design a premium packaging box for our new sunglasses line. The box should combine luxury with functionality, ensuring both aesthetic appeal and protective qualities. Product: Item: Sunglasses Box Dimensions: 180mm x 120mm x 30mm (LxWxH) to snugly fit the sunglasses. Design Specifications: Exterior Design: Material: Durable, matte black cardboard or similar with a smooth finish. Style: Sleek, minimalist reminiscent of high-end tech products. Color: All black. Interior Design: Material: Lined with a soft, velvet-like fabric in black. Features: Designated slot or compartment for secure placement of the sunglasses. Closure Mechanism: Type: Magnetic closure for security and ease of acc...
I am searching for a skilled CAD operator to convert my hand-drawn plans into a CAD software. Ideally, you will possess the capability to operate in either AutoCAD, SketchUp, or SolidWorks. The primary tasks will be: - Converting hand-drawn sketches into a profession...SketchUp, or SolidWorks. The primary tasks will be: - Converting hand-drawn sketches into a professional CAD document. - Ensuring precise measurements for construction purposes. - Creating a material cut list on sheet goods. The selected freelancer should have a solid background in architecture, engineering, or a similar field with a strong familiarity with the above-mentioned software. The dimensions in the converted CAD plans should be represented in inches. Please provide relevant work samples or portfolios when...
Must be aware of australian standards for design Once you have converted the drawings into Autocad files, can you please prepare the following drawings also. 1. A set out plan with grids to enable the surveyor a convenient situation to do the peg out 2. Show contextual information on floor plans… 3. Show dimensions of site works, driveway and the like 4. Show adequate levels throughout all the drawings to show clarity between the finished level and the existing natural ground levels 5. Prepare New Sections as identified in the attachment- 6. Several construction details at scale of 1:20 & 1:10 as suitable to elaborate and explain the non-standard junctions in this design – for example, The batten screen on the front fa&cce...
I need a compelling banner designed to invite attendees to our Zoom webinar. - **Color Scheme**: The banner should primarily be in Blue, as it's our brand color. - **Imagery/Icons**: Please include our company logo and the speaker's photo. You can modify the speaker's image to suit the design. You can incorporate abstract shapes if you see fit. - **Text**: The banner should include the webinar title, and the date and time of the event. The ideal candidate for this project should have: - Experience in designing banners for online events. - Proficiency with design tools and software. - Ability to work efficiently and deliver in 1 hour Please provide a portfolio of similar projects you've done in the past.
I need proficient and detailed precast concrete calculati...for an infrastructure project. Here are the specifics: - Required Calculations: * Structural design calculations for precast elements * Reinforcement design calculations * Stability Check & Loading calculations * Wind load - Project Specifications: * You'll be dealing with specific length, width, and height dimensions * The design must comply with certain codes and standards BS or ASTM Since this project is about creating an infrastructure, the competent freelancer should have strong skills in structural and civil engineering and a solid understanding of precast concrete construction. Experience in infrastructure projects is highly preferred. Lastly, understanding of pertinent ...
I need help in transforming my sketch into a detailed 3D two-sided...pool. Inspired by the shape of a bird's nest, I envision the base to be sturdy and thick, transitioning into a thinner top, similar to a bird emerging from its nest. Key Details: - Must adhere to original country flag dimensions. Please research protocol sizing. - The desired material is metal, copper if possible. - Must incorporate a bird-nest-style base. -another design with mountain base The ideal freelancer for this job possesses a strong grasp of 3D AutoCAD modeling and an eye for precision and detail with measures of details . Prior experience with metal design is a strong advantage, and an understanding of flag protocols is essential. The primary goal is to create a unique, tasteful...
I'm seeking an artist to create an impressionistic oil painting of my mother. I'm looking for a medium-sized piece, with dimensions up to 36 inches. The final artwork should capture her essence in a unique and artistic manner. Key Requirements: - Proficiency in oil painting: You should have a solid background and experience in working with oil paints. Your understanding of color blending and texture in oil paintings will be crucial in delivering a high-quality piece. - Impressionistic style: I'm particularly drawn to the impressionistic style for this project. It should be about capturing the essence and mood of the subject rather than focusing on realistic detail. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Previous experience in creating portrait artwork - Ability to work in a...
Open Lab Manual, Page 21, Exercise #7. Choose the isometric model given on the page and represent it orthographically. Use AutoCAD software and submit a *.dwg file. Do: (a) Location of each view (please Label each with “view names”) (b) Positions (alignment) and Orientations of views (c) Orthographic Projections of visible and hidden surfaces (d) Show major dimensions (e) Follow the rule of precedence of lines No errors or mistakes.
I'm l...can create a minimalist logo. The logo must be unique and instantly recognizable, helping to define the brand identity of my business. COMPANY NAME: Hey Hi Toys Key requirements: - A minimalist design that aligns with the ethos of a modern, trend-setting company. - Experience in designing logos for retail businesses. - Portfolio of past work showcasing clean, minimalist designs. Skills and Experience: - Graphic Design - Logo Design - Adobe Illustrator - Experience in the Retail industry Your input in the creative process is very welcome, allowing for a creation of a logo that is both appealing and reflective of our business. Prompt and open communication will be apprec...
I am a 3D rendering artist working on a project that is big and need help modeling furniture. The exact piece of furniture that I need is attached. It's a sofa. This will be a custom piece of furniture. Attached is the shape it should have. - I only need this sofa piece modeled. - I need it to have textures in corona. - The software is 3dsmax. - Dimensions in inches and feet. - Good attention to detail. - Revisions: 2 drafts and a final. If this job is successful we will have more furniture pieces to model and will use your services again. Key requirements: - Expertise in 3D modeling - Experience in creating furniture models, particularly sofas - Ability to work with textures and materials - Attention to detail to capture the essence of traditional styling
...will be instrumental to our fabrication process, providing detailed manufacturing plans and ensuring accuracy. We rely on these drawings to convey our design intent to the production team. Our preferences for these drawings include: * General layout and dimensions to provide broad structural context * Material specifications and finish details We're looking for someone who can deliver high-quality Autocad drafts in a swift and efficient manner. Our timeline for completion is within one week. Ideal candidates will have experience with Autocad, a keen sense of precision, and a strong understanding of material specifications in casework design. Looking for a long term employee, 40 hours a week Requirement's: Fluent in English writing and speaking Auto...
...and creative designer with a versatile skillset that spans across banner, poster, and logo design. Key components of the project: - Design Purpose: The designs will serve the dual purpose of advertising our products and strengthening our brand identity, while also conveying key information about our offerings. - Design Style: I am looking for designs that can switch between Minimalist, Bold and Vibrant, and Elegant and Sophisticated, aligning with specific campaigns and messages. Ideal Designer Characteristics: - Keen eye for aesthetics that blend various design styles. - Proven experience in creating compelling advertisements, brand-related designs, and informative content. - Knowledge and execution of current graphic design practices and so...
I'm in need of a 3D modeler who can convert my 2D sketches into a basic 3D model. I'm looking to use this 3D model for product design purposes. Ideal Candidate: - Proficient in 3D modeling software - Experienced with basic to moderate level 3D modeling - Ability to work with specific dimensions
I'm in need of the below: Sidebar Banner Required for Linton FM Solutions - to be added to our PR companies website details below: A sidebar banner advert will run on the TWinFM website up until the event date. The spec for a masthead banner advert is as follows: - Measures 120 pixels wide by 240 pixels high. - Provided in gif (animated permitted), .png, .jpeg or .bmp format. - Max 1MB in file size. - URL the banner needs to link to (UTM tracker info permitted, max 200 characters). - Examples are readily available through-out the TWinFM website, down the left and right-side of the webpage.
...user-friendly design is essential. The exact features to be added or enhanced: -Unlimited Pages Website -E-Commerce Store Design -Product Detail Page Design -Unlimited Products -Unlimited Categories -Product Rating & Reviews -Unique Banner Slider -Featured Products Showcase -Full Shopping Cart Integration -Multi-currency Support -Online Payment -Module Setup Facebook Shop Integration -Sales & Inventory Management -Easy Product Search -Payment Gateway Integration -Content Management System/CMS -Customer Log-in Area -Mobile Responsive -Social Media Plugins Integration -Tell a Friend Feature -Social Media Pages -Value Added Services -Custom Logo Design -Icon Design -Print Media -Stationary Design -Invoice Design -Bi-Fold B...
Hi Gialina A., I noticed your profile and would like to offer you my project. We can discuss any details over chat.
I'm looking for a skilled CAD designer who can create a custom canopy for my truck. The primary purpose of this canopy is to store tools in the back of the ute. Key Requirements: - Design a canopy suitable for a Truck - Focus on practicality and efficiency for storing tools - The design must be suitable for local manufacturing It's crucial that the design adheres to specific dimensions and measurements. This project would perfectly suit someone who has experience in automotive CAD design and a good understanding of practical engineering for tool storage systems.
...dedicated designer to create professional and sleek thumbnails for my YouTube channel. Key Requirements: - Design Style: The thumbnails should look professional and sleek, aligning with my brand image. Think more on the lines of high-quality, clean visuals. - Text Overlay: All thumbnails should include text; this is a significant aspect to entice viewers. The text should be minimal but impactful, complementing the overall design. - Dimensions: The thumbnails must be 1920x1080 pixels (16:9), so please ensure you're comfortable with this aspect. Ideal Candidate: - Proven experience in designing YouTube thumbnails with a professional and sleek aesthetic. - Proficiency in graphic design tools like Adobe Photoshop or Illustrator. - Understanding of brandin...
Design homepage slider for an e-commerce website Requirements: - Design homepage slider for -Required texts: Durable Lifeguard Chairs -Required button: SHOP NOW -size 1140x480 - Use product images from -Be creative -Can use stock photos
...of a 3D modelling expert to translate a collection of product photos and general dimensions into a simple, clean product model. Key Requirements: - Basic shapes and forms: I need the model to be stripped down to just the essential elements, focusing solely on the core product without any additional distractions. - Photo and dimension-based: I will provide a set of photos and general dimensions for the product, which will serve as the foundation for the model. Ideal Skills: - Proficiency in 3D modelling software - Strong understanding of product design and form - Ability to translate 2D images into 3D models - Attention to detail for ensuring the model accurately represents the provided photos and dimensions. Please respond with your relevant experience...
... We are aimed to reach high end builds. NAME OF BRAND PREMCON We prefer not a text logo however exceptions will be considered for creative design. I am after a badge or logo to go with the brand to be cross represented/utilised with other company names such as premcon group, premcon constructions and premcon developments. PREMCON logo can be featured as a sub-entry with the words Premcon Developments tied together and/or Premcon Projects. Also careful consideration can be given to featuring the words underneath banner adds with: Resi, Commercial, Industrial to state the areas the company operates in. Key requirements: - A minimalist design style: I'm looking for a clean, simple, and uncluttered aesthetic that can communicate my logo clearly without co...
I'm in need of a talented designer to create a large (8ft x 10ft) banner backdrop for an upcoming pharma event. Requirements: - Design must be suitable for a large backdrop, with detailed graphic work and text that can be easily read from a distance. - The design should convey professionalism and elegance, in alignment with our company's and event's branding. - Use of colors should be in line with our brand colors and our company's location. - Able to generate media in a tight deadline. Please only apply if you have experience in creating similar event backdrops, and are able to provide a portfolio of relevant work.
I am in need of a PCB design for a prototype. The design should be double-layered and of medium size, falling between the dimensions of 10 cm x 10 cm and 20 cm x 20 cm. Key Requirements: - The PCB design should be tailored to suit the prototype's functional requirements. - The design needs to be double-layered to accommodate the complexity of the prototype. - The size of the PCB should be between 10 cm x 10 cm and 20 cm x 20 cm. Ideal Skills: - Proficiency in PCB design software. - Experience in creating double-layer PCBs. - Knowledge of electronic circuit implementation for prototypes.
...in need of a skilled engineer to create a traditional-style timber frame design for a barn workshop. This barn should have a large open studio area with lean-too on both sides. Mortis and tenon joints and dovetail mortis and tenon joints to be used every that a structural connection is required. Frame inside walls if studio space will be sheathed with 2x4 stud walls insulated with batt insulation with shiplap on lean top side and studio side. Roof will be capped with SIP panels. Roof will be metal and outside walls will all be metal siding. Key Requirements: - 3D Model and Design to be done in Revit or other approved software. - Per Michigan building code and ASCE 7 for design loading for SE Michigan. - All design files to be provided including 3D model, h...
I am in need of an experienced graphic designer to create elegant and formal banners for my website's main pages. The website will be selling temporary tattoos. I ...mockups. I need to make them banners. The total will be 7 banners .Here's what I am envisioning: - A sophisticated, professional style that aligns with my brand's aesthetic - Primarily featuring our products and a captivating tagline The perfect candidate for this task would have considerable experience in graphic design, specifically in creating minimal yet effective web banners. They should know how to apply an elegant and formal style that can draw in users while keeping the design cohesive with our brand image. An understanding of how to present information clearly and attractively in a limit...
I'm in need of an exceptional graphic artist who can create bright, simplistic, and easily readable banner designs for various sports clubs. Each design should prominently feature club colours and measure 800mm x 260mm. The specific details to be included in each banner, such as the club name and emblem or any other relevant information will be discussed later. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proven experience in Banner Design - Strong graphic design skills with a keen eye for aesthetics and detail - Ability to deliver bright, simple, and easily readable designs - Capable of adjusting designs according to specified club colours. Please share your portfolio of previous banner designs. Looking forward to collaboratively creating someth...
I'm seeking a talented designer to develop a small, cardboard box specifically for distributing screws and nails. Key requirements: - The first box needs to be robust and the specific dimensions are 12cm x 12cm x 12cm Exact dimensions will be provided once the project begins. - The box will store screws and nails, so it needs to ensure safe and secure storage and delivery of these items. - The box material of choice is cardboard, though the design should make it sturdy and durable. Ideal skills and experience for this job: - Product Design - Packaging Design - CAD Design - Experience in the hardware industry is a plus.
I'm in need of a designer who can transform my banner into something truly captivating. I'm looking for an expert with a keen eye for color adjustment, typography modification, etc. I have a general concept and some design elements, but really need it tweaked to come together better that what I've got. Needing another set of eyes on it. Our banner printing device allows us to print vivid colors, so I want to capture that. You know when you've looked at something too long, and you start to question yourself? Thats where I'm at. HA! I'm not a designer....just play with it to make it stronger.... I can include the neon font effects I purchased from Adobe, along with what I've made so far. Final art needed is the illustrator file.
...the current name incorporated in the logo to our new company name. Keep the logo's unique style and essence. - Format Conversion: Provide the updated logo in JPG, PNG, and SVG formats. - Versatility: Design a version with a white background. Your proposal should consider the logo's aesthetic consistency across these different formats and usage scenarios. IDEAL CANDIDATE: The ideal candidate will have extensive experience in graphic design, particularly rebranding and format conversion. Your portfolio needs to clearly manifest your proficiency in these areas. DIMENSIONS: The logo dimensions will vary depending on the use, hence flexibility is crucial. You should be able to adapt the logo's size, maintaining its quality and proportion in d...
...who can put together comprehensive cold form steel shop drawings for my construction project. The ideal candidate should have a strong background in cold form steel detailing and can provide clear, detailed and accurate drawings that will be used for the construction and fabrication of the steel components. The project will require: - Inclusion of accurate dimensions: It's critical that the steel drawings accurately reflect the dimensions of the structure. Therefore, you must be meticulous and precise in this aspect. - Material specifications: You will need to provide precise specifications of the materials that will be used in the construction. This will have to be in line with the Alberta Building Code which is the standard that needs to be followed. - Fastening de...
Hi, I need animation for my website in the header. Dimensions will be about 800x400px I need simple animation with elements below. There is final look of animation. Also, If you bid 20e, I expect to do for 20e. Some of people are bidding with lowest price, and after that they want more. I WANT PRICE FOR ALL PROJECT, OTHER BIDDING WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED. It is micro project, so budget is not very rich. Good luck
...create a modern and minimalist logo and banner for my brand. The design should be sleek and simple, yet striking. Key Requirements: - Creation of a modern and minimalist logo that embodies the essence of my brand - Corresponding banner design that complements the logo and is suitable for online use Color Preferences: - The designs should be in black and white, adhering to a monochromatic palette. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proficiency in graphic design software - Strong portfolio of modern and minimalist designs - Understanding of branding and visual identity - Ability to deliver high-quality, professional designs - Excellent communication skills for understanding and incorporating feedback. If you're a creative thinker who can deliver ...
Hi Neelam J., I hope you are well!!!! I have a project I'd like to get you to help me with and need to send you a signed book with your illustrations as well!!! I'm creating a podcast called "the soldier in me" I need a logo and banner something empowering and I have pictures of myself to give you an idea of the design. I'd like you to use your creativity too!
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I'm seeking a talented graphic designer to create engaging print banners for an upcoming ...talented graphic designer to create engaging print banners for an upcoming college fest. The ideal candidate should have a keen eye for detail, the ability to incorporate event-specific elements into their design, and experience crafting banners for similar events. Duties and requirements include: - Designing print banners that effectively promote the college fest. - Ensuring your designs align with the fest's overall branding and aesthetic. - Using your creativity to engage and excite potential attendees. Skills required: - Proficiency in Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, or other graphic design software. - Previous experience designing print banners. - Experience in even...
