Logo / graphic design project - repost

We are a holding company which needs a new logo and a second logo for one of our e-commerce sites. After 4-6 weeks we wil probably continue with webdesign for this e-commerce site. This will be another project. 1. Holding name : Manorai Activities: different e-commerce shops Market : France Logo ideas: the name Manorai consist of two words: "Mano" = hand with 5 fingers and secondly " Rai" which means in french: bar of an old wooden cart wheel (google this and you see what I mean). I want a logo which consists of a hand in the middle of the wooden cartwheel and the 5 fingers make then make the different bars (which in fact shows our numerous activities). But maybe we need more fingers :) if it is more esthetic in your opinion. Style: combination of modern and classic/rural 19th century (like the wheel) Under the logo written : Since 1994 Colors: please feel free 2. Boutique du linge This activity : the site [login to view URL] is selling bedding and towels. Style of logo : modern, Ikea, Hema, Nordic / Skandinavian but with a slight romantic, warm, touch. Although modern is the keyword. We work with a partner [login to view URL] : have a look on their site: this gives you an impression of what we are selling. Our logo must be different from theirs of course, but it should be in the same kind of style. Colors: modern Summary Finished designs are to be supplied as AI , .PSD, .JPG (high and low res), .PNG, .EPS once they have been approved This concerns the 2 logos, 2 x business cards and 2 x A4 letterhead. The stationary has to be delivered in Word, PDF and certified pdf as well (ready for print). All designs made will be copyright of Manorai when payment is made. Please send me your offer and the time interval you expect to deliver. Please do not hesitate to ask questions if you have any. Waiting for your reply Kind regards Mark Hofman Manorai